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Was the Poll tax a FAIRER tax than CT
Yes
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No
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 21%  [ 3 ]
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Archie White



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:56 am    Post subject:
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ickey

It is true that some people on higher incomes have more commitments than some people on lower incomes. It is also true that some people on lower incomes have more commitments than some people on higher incomes. While some people in each category are clearly identifiable (e.g. those with mortgages, those with large student loans etc), there is no simple, overall correlation between income and essential commitments.

It has proved extremely difficult in practice to build a fair tax system round commitments. If you give tax relief to one group with perceived higher commitments, this often proves unfair to others, and can have other undesirable consequences. For example, mortgage interest tax relief was unfair to tenants. Tenants did not get tax relief on their rental payments, and got no benefit from any increase in the capital value of their homes. Mortgage interest tax relief also subsidized property speculators those who think that houses are for investing, not nesting.

And how do you define essential commitments? We all have to feed, clothe and house ourselves. But the cost of these commodities varies widely across the country, and even within the same town - and these variations may bear no relation to income. Cars are essential for country dwellers, but not for most city dwellers (though this is one instance where I think that means could be found to target essential car users for some relief on petrol duty.)

No tax system can be absolutely fair. The most that we can hope to do is avoid gross unfairness. I stick to my view that both Council Tax and Poll Tax are grossly unfair, as well as being extremely difficult to collect, as (unlike income tax) they are not deducted from incomes at source.

Archie
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject:
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air enough Archie - as you say, no system is perfect.

In the end it is a matter of opinion.

I still think that a sense of inclusion is required - this necessitates EVERYONE paying something

But we do agree that CT is UNFAIR
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